True Love doesn't Wait

I usually take my posts on Persevero! News and post them here a few days later. But a recent post of mine was very popular and, as a result, has a lot of comments, which really go with the post. So I will, instead, post a short summary and a link, so y'all can follow over there and comment.

I am going to go out on a limb here and say that True Love doesn’t wait. True Love can only come from Christ, and can only be exercised in obedience to Christ. And Christ, via Paul, commands True Love to marry. That is, unless it has the gift of celibacy (Hint: If you are writing blog posts about your frustration in not being married, you don’t have the gift of celibacy).

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Choose ye

Was discussing marriage on Facebook and a young lady, complaining about the idea that feelings might follow betrothal instead of preceding it, said, "I would rather be thirty and [unmarried]..." and I suddenly had an idea for a thought experiment. In it I try to present both views in their ideal form:

A fourteen year old girl is presented with two possible futures[1]:
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In the first she marries at fifteen[2] to a boy in her church, seventeen himself, who was eager for the blessings and responsibilities of marriage.
By age thirty she has eight children, all growing in Godliness. She has a husband who, according to I Cor 13, loves her. He cares for her in all appropriate ways, trains the children well, and he and they rise up to call her blessed.
Having married at fifteen and having their first child quickly after that, she never worked or got any kind of higher education except that which came from reading at home and teaching her children.
As far as Song of Solomon issues they came to their wedding bed both virgins and he was convinced that coming together with her was the best thing short of heaven. Even now, fifteen years in, he still calls her when on business trips and moans about how he would much, much, rather be in bed with her. They come together frequently, and neither one refuses each other.
Financially the road has been hard, but now that the children are starting to get older the oldest ones are becoming a help. They are not in debt but they did have have to live frugally several times.
They get along well with both sets of families, and have a normal amount of friends, etc. But she has never, ever, felt the kind of Romeo and Juliet feelings for her husband that some of her friends talk about having had for their husbands when they got married…
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In the second possible future the girl refuses this boy, because she didn’t love him. He goes on to marry another girl soon after.
Fifteen years later she is a successful career woman. She has lived frugally but well and now is not only out of debt but with a large savings account.
She completed her education and even did a bunch of continuing ed over the years and is a fairly accomplished artist on the side. She has thoroughly enjoyed her life up to now…
When she has met the man of her dreams. Besides being handsome, accomplished, and having a large savings account of his own… she is deliriously in love with him. All of the feelings that her friends have described over the years she has, in spades, redoubled and tamped down.
They met, fell in love, and are planning on getting married tomorrow. They both are looking forward to sex and the rest of their lives together…
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The fourteen year old girl is given the choice between these two futures. Biblically speaking, which one should she choose, and why? Chapter and verse if you can.
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[1] To avoid theological entanglements, I do not say how she is presented. For the purposes of the question you may assume it is God, an angel, or your favorite sci-fi trope. Not the point of the question :)
[2] We will presume this to be legal in this area and having the blessing of both sets of parents.

I was challenged, on line, to come up with references for the various bits of 'my' example. Being a good homeschooling father I assigned the task to one of my children :)

To be very clear these references are in answer to the following concept:
This young lady is presented with two choices. These two choices have different beginnings, and different endings. The passages we list here are Scripture passages that are designed to help the young lady choose between these two paths. We look at the various choices, and results, of the two paths and tried to find passages that spoke to that choice. If this young woman seeks to serve God, she seeks to do His will. She should find his will in the Scriptures. So, here are some Scriptures.

We are open to anyone adding to this list, or even providing a contrary list.

she marries at fifteen

Psa 78:63 The fire consumed their young men; and their maidens were not given to marriage.

Isa_62:5 For as a young man marrieth a virgin, so shall thy sons marry thee: and as the bridegroom rejoiceth over the bride, so shall thy God rejoice over thee.

1Ti 5:14 I will therefore that the younger women marry, bear children, guide the house, give none occasion to the adversary to speak reproachfully.

Num 30:3 If a woman also vow a vow unto the LORD, and bind herself by a bond, being in her father's house in her youth;

Pro_5:18 Let thy fountain be blessed: and rejoice with the wife of thy youth.

Isa_54:6 For the LORD hath called thee as a woman forsaken and grieved in spirit, and a wife of youth, when thou wast refused, saith thy God.

Mal_2:14 Yet ye say, Wherefore? Because the LORD hath been witness between thee and the wife of thy youth, against whom thou hast dealt treacherously: yet is she thy companion, and the wife of thy covenant.

Mal_2:15 And did not he make one? Yet had he the residue of the spirit. And wherefore one? That he might seek a godly seed. Therefore take heed to your spirit, and let none deal treacherously against the wife of his youth.


By age thirty she has eight children

Psa_113:9 He maketh the barren woman to keep house, and to be a joyful mother of children. Praise ye the LORD.

Psa_127:3 Lo, children are an heritage of the LORD: and the fruit of the womb is his reward.

Psa 127:4 As arrows are in the hand of a mighty man; so are children of the youth.
Psa 127:5 Happy is the man that hath his quiver full of them: they shall not be ashamed, but they shall speak with the enemies in the gate.


to a boy in her church

Gen 24:3 And I will make thee swear by the LORD, the God of heaven, and the God of the earth, that thou shalt not take a wife unto my son of the daughters of the Canaanites, among whom I dwell:


He cares for her in all appropriate ways

Exo 21:10 If he take him another wife; her food, her raiment, and her duty of marriage, shall he not diminish.

1Ti_5:8 But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.


trains the children well

Gen_18:19 For I know him, that he will command his children and his household after him, and they shall keep the way of the LORD, to do justice and judgment; that the LORD may bring upon Abraham that which he hath spoken of him.

Deu_4:9 Only take heed to thyself, and keep thy soul diligently, lest thou forget the things which thine eyes have seen, and lest they depart from thy heart all the days of thy life: but teach them thy sons, and thy sons' sons;


she never worked or got any kind of higher education except that which came from reading at home and teaching her children

Tit_2:5 To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.

they rise up to call her blessed
Prov 31

As far as Song of Solomon issues they came to their wedding bed both virgins and he was convinced that coming together with her was the best thing short of heaven. Even now, fifteen years in, he still calls her when on business trips and moans about how he would much, much, rather be in bed with her.
They come together frequently, and neither one refuses each other.
Song of Solomon, Proverbs 5, I Cor 7:3-5


Financially the road has been hard, but now that the children are starting to get older the oldest ones are becoming a help.
Psalm 127

But she has never, ever, felt the kind of Romeo and Juliet feelings for her husband that some of her friends talk about having had for their husbands when they got married…

Which is never listed in Scripture as a requirement.




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Pornography III: Hear, Oh My Son, the Instruction of a Father

Pro 5:1 My son, attend unto my wisdom, and bow thine ear to my understanding:

There is a long forgotten doctrine, once universally held in the church, that would, if followed, provide a great bulwark against pornography, prostitution, fornication, adultery, and divorce. Oh, and child-murder. It is a very, very unpopular doctrine. The most conservative of conservatives disagree with it. The most radical of Presbyterians have no idea Calvin taught it. The most Reformed of Reformed Baptist are clueless that John Gill preached on it.

Solomon could be said to be the chief spokesman for it. Again and again Solomon mentions this doctrine, again and again he states that it is a bulwark against sexual sin. And yet, again and again, our modern preachers and commentators pass lightly over.

What is this strange doctrine? The doctrine of ‘honor thy father’. (I will wait a bit for the howls of protest to die down, as my audience screams that of course they believe in honoring their fathers!!.).

Pro 5:2-5 That thou mayest regard discretion, and that thy lips may keep knowledge.
For the lips of a strange woman drop as an honeycomb, and her mouth is smoother than oil:
But her end is bitter as wormwood, sharp as a twoedged sword.
Her feet go down to death; her steps take hold on hell.

How is that the modern church doesn’t believe in this doctrine, doesn’t teach this doctrine, has perverted this doctrine out of all historical recognition? What is this doctrine? What did the church historical teach? How does that differ from what is taught today?

The church historical taught that young men owed their parents life-long honor (yes, quiet down, I know you think you believe that) and that this honor consisted of: respect, care… and obedience. Read that again. Obedience. Life-long obedience to your parents. No, not ending when you turn eighteen. No, not ending when you get a job. No, not ending when you get married[1]. Life-long.

Pro 7:1-5 My son, keep my words, and lay up my commandments with thee.
Keep my commandments, and live; and my law as the apple of thine eye.
Bind them upon thy fingers, write them upon the table of thine heart.
Say unto wisdom, Thou art my sister; and call understanding thy kinswoman:
That they may keep thee from the strange woman, from the stranger which flattereth with her words.

While you take a deep breath and read that again I will answer you next question. “How does that help with… with what you said?” Well, first of all, lets face it, most of us, when we became adults, rather threw off the shackles. We liberated ourselves from all of the protections that our parents had provided. And our parents, unfortunately, thought that was OK. Before we were used to having to tell our parents when we were going to be in, who we were going out with, etc., once we became *adults* we ignored all that.

The result? Well, it is a lot, lot easier to stay out too late… and do too much… if you never had to ‘report in’. If you had no rules. If you had no rulemaker.

What about when we are married? How can parents help then? Well, in my opinion the question almost answers itself. They have been around the block, marriage wise. For many of us our parents have been married longer than we have been alive! [2] They have been there, done that. Or done something else equally stupid. Let me tell you about the time my mom and dad had this fight… well, maybe another time. Let’s just say that my mom applied the words ‘let not the sun go down on your wrath’ with a vengeance (and a cup of water).

Pro 13:1  A wise son heareth his father's instruction: but a scorner heareth not rebuke.

“Oh, but I go to my parents…” Oh, really? Like you would if you actually thought they had authority? Maybe not direct authority over how you deal with your wife[3], but direct authority over you and your spiritual affairs? Direct authority to rebuke you for being stupid and unloving? You go to them in that sense? Yeah, I didn’t think so.

I heard this story the other day where this couple tells their kids they were separating (hint: the kids were devastated). And I kept hoping someone would answer the totally inane speech about ‘how it is for the best’ with ‘no it isn’t! It is totally immoral and unloving!’ But nobody did. But maybe parents could have. Perhaps the father or the mother, or both, could have taken the couple aside and instructed them in their duties re I Cor 7:3-5, Ephesians 5, Titus 2, and Proverbs 5.

The wife may need to be instructed in being submissive to a husband, even if he obey not the Lord, as I Pet 3 says. This is a hard duty, and one that is not often taught.

Pro 31:1-3 The words of king Lemuel, the prophecy that his mother taught him.
What, my son? and what, the son of my womb? and what, the son of my vows?
Give not thy strength unto women, nor thy ways to that which destroyeth kings.

Or perhaps one or other of the couple needs instructions from the rest of I Cor 7… on dealing with an unChristian spouse. Or a spouse acting as if they were a non-Christian. Let’s face it; if the Scriptures tell the Christian spouse not to leave their non-Christian spouse unless they get kicked out… how is that two Christians think that one of them is allowed to leave their family, leave their marriage bed, just because things get tough? It would take a father with authority to deliver a message like that.

I think that for my audience this will be my hardest post. What we are talking about here is taking on one of the sins of the age. It is written:

Rom 1:29-32 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,  Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,  Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Did you catch that? In the middle of all of those horrible sins, hard to dream of in a child, at least in their fullest form, we have ‘disobedient to parents’. And today we have made that a virtue. We actually celebrate it when an ‘adult’ defies his parents. We call it ‘coming of age’. We call it ‘becoming an adult’. We call it ‘growing up’.

And all of that is completely unBiblical. Scripture doesn’t teach any of it. Indeed all of the Biblical characters, most particularly Christ, contradict all of it. All of Scripture teaches that the authority and instruction of the father are to guide us lifelong.

Oh, wait a minute. But what about pornography? Well, read my previous post and ask yourself how much easier that issue would be when addressed by an authoritative father or mother. Not an 'equal', not a parent busy pulling away to let their children be 'adults'... but by an authoritative father.

This is the third in our  series on pornography:

I:   To avoid Fornication

II:  The Married Man

III: Hear, Oh My Son, the Instruction of a Father

Beyond the Song of Solomon: A response to Christianity Today

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Footnotes

[1] John Gill writes:

Ephesians 6:1

Children, obey your parents in the Lord,.... The persons whose duty this is, "children", are such of every sex, male and female, and of every age, and of every state and condition; and though the true, legitimate, and immediate offspring of men may be chiefly respected, yet not exclusive of spurious children, and adopted ones, and of children-in-law; and the persons to whom obedience from them is due, are not only real and immediate parents, both father and mother, but such who are in the room of parents, as step-fathers, step-mothers, guardians, nurses, &c. and all who are in the ascending line, as grandfathers, grandmothers, &c. to these, children should be subject and obedient in all things lawful, just, and good; in everything that is not sinful and unlawful, by the word of God; and in things indifferent, as much as in them lies, and even in things which are difficult to perform: and this obedience should be hearty and sincere, and not merely verbal, and in show and appearance, nor mercenary; and should be joined with gratitude and thankfulness for past favours: and it should be "in the Lord"; which may be considered either as a limitation of the obedience, that it should be in things that are agreeable to the mind and will of the Lord; or as an argument to it, because it is the command of the Lord, and is wellpleasing in his sight, and makes for his glory, and therefore should be done for his sake:

[2] Yes, joke.

[3] Scripture is clear that a man is to have authority over his wife and children. The patriarch’s jurisdiction does not extend into the inner workings of his son’s family.

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Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch,
whose flame Is the imprisoned lightning,
and her name Mother of Exiles.
From her beacon-hand Glows world-wide welcome;
her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips.
"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

Keep ancient lands, your storied pomp… give me your tired, your poor… your huddled masses yearning to breath free…

 Powerful words. Not Scripture, but, still, powerful words. Too bad we have forgotten them. We ‘right wingers’ that is.

When I say, ‘we’, I mean… well, most people would consider me a ‘right winger’. On most issues. I mean, I believe in capitalism (as consistent  with God’s Law. Certainly I don’t believe in Socialism!!), I don’t believe in abortion (I call it ‘child-murder’ and think it deserves the death penalty. That’s got to be right wing, doesn’t it?), I believe in justice (well, not prisons), I believe in marriage (although I don’t believe the state or the church should have anything to do with it, except to punish adultery where the family brings it to their attention…).

I guess there are other issues. I am unalterably opposed to government schools which, for some reason I have never understood 99% of the right seem in favor of. (I mean, seriously? They are run by union workers, teach socialism, and are pro-government indoctrination centers. What are those people thinking?? I have even seen Libertarians get all gushy about ‘education’. Gag.)

And then there is immigration. I am on the ‘wrong’ side of immigration. That is, the ‘left’ side. Sort of.

I believe that Scriptural principles are incredibly pro immigration. Not just ‘neutral’, but pro. I believe that a Scriptural government would have, basically, no immigration controls. ‘By all means give us your huddled masses yearning…’ well, not ‘to live free’, but to live under a Godly government. By which I mean a very, very small ‘civil’ government, and a very large system of other jurisdictions. No, no welfare, no ‘aid to families with dependent children’, no Social Security, no progressive (or other) income tax…

Seriously right wingers, this should be our issue. It fits with our values, not theirs. We are the ones that believe that by reason of hard work, savings, good family values… etc etc… We are the ones that know that the economy is not a zero sum game. That millions more workers would mean millions more jobs. We are the ones that understand that Social Security (besides being insane) is underfunded and that we need millions more workers to make it, umm, work (which it won’t. Perhaps, ‘to stave off immediately visible collapse’).

You believe in liberty? Liberty starts at the border. Liberty starts with families being able to move from oppression to freedom. Our country started with immigration. It started with families fleeing religious prosecution and seeking economic opportunity. You remember Ronald Reagan saying to tear down the Berlin wall? Well, what good is tearing down the wall the prevents people from leaving if we only put another one up to keep people from coming in??

Lets talk practical politics for a minute. You want to launch a pro-liberty party into prominence? Make it pro-immigration. Open borders. Shut down the welfare state, and open the borders. That is the way to true liberty.

You believe in Biblical Law? Then you can’t believe in closed borders, because it isn’t in there. What is there is God’s clear command to welcome the stranger. To have one law for the foriegner and native born.

"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!... Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

As posted  by Von on Persevero News!

Help End Obamacare!

Practically every day I get a message on email or Facebook asking me to ‘Help End Obamacare’ by signing their petition, or donating to their political action committee. Somehow I am a bit doubtful that signing a petition will help, and most of the political action committees seem to support candidates that are responsible for the very growth of government that allowed for Obamacare.

We as Christians are called to care for the sick, but Obamacare won't do that. Instead it will gut what little true health care we have left, adding to the government oppression of true healers.

Thankfully I have an alternative. That alternative is Samaritan Ministries.

I suppose I need to explain first what Samaritan Ministries is, and then why it is a practical, affordable, and effectual ministry to helping others with their medical burdens and conversely if I have medical burdens, ministers to me and my family in like manner; and then why it helps stop Obamacare.

Samaritan Ministries is a ‘Biblical, non-insurance approach to health care needs’. Families who ‘join’ Samaritan’s Ministry commit to covering each other’s needs. “Each member commits to sending a set “Share” amount each month. These “Shares” are sent directly through the mail from one household to another, to the members with “Needs”. Samaritan Ministries uses a database that randomly matches Shares to Needs, so that the Sharing is coordinated and Shares go to the appropriate members with Needs.

Samaritan Ministries publishes a monthly newsletter mailing that reports the total Shares and Needs and includes an individualized Share Notice for each member household. The Share Notice tells each household how to pray for a specific member with a Need and what his address is, so the Share can be sent to him. Typically less than 10 percent of the members have a Need in a given month and are receiving Shares.

When a member has a health care “Need” he receives health care treatment from a provider of his choice, collects the bills, and sends them to Samaritan Ministries. Samaritan Ministries verifies that the Need meets the Guidelines. Then, in the monthly newsletter mailing, Samaritan Ministries directs some members to send their Shares to the member with the Need. The member with the need receives the shares to pay his health care bills.

With more than 23,000 member households participating in the ministry, there is about $6 million available each month to meet health care needs.”[1]

CANCER CLINICS TURN AWAY MEDICARE USERS...
Projected Shortage of 45,000 Doctors by 2020...
WALGREEN clinics to begin treating chronic illnesses...
Easier to Apply for Green Card than Obamacare...
Drudge Headlines 4/4/13

OK, so that’s how it works. How does it help defeat Obamacare? Well, Samaritan’s members are exempt from the Obamacare requirements. So each member of Samaritans is one person who is not paying into the government system, not supporting birth control and child murder, not increasing the governments control over our daily lives in myriads of ways.

Imagine that every single person who was opposed to child-murder (and wanted to save money on insurance) were to join Samaritan. How many millions would that be? Millions of people. We are always talking about how to fight Obamacare, what better way then cutting the very ground out from under them?

In this way SM is like homeschooling: the best way to fight the system is to not participate in it. To raise our children outside of the corrupting influence of government health care just as we do outside of the corrupting influence of government ‘education’. So far over twenty three thousand people have joined Samaritans. Twenty-three thousands opt-outs to Obamacare. Twenty-three thousand combatants in the war against government health care. Won’t you join us?

Disclaimer: The author is a member but not an employee of Samaritan Ministries and recevies no compensation for this article except the hope that more people will join in opposing unBiblical and destructive government mandates.

As posted by Von on Persevero News!

Piers Morgan and 'What we do in our bedrooms'.

As posted by Von on Persevero News!

“I don’t care what adults do in their own bedrooms…”

So begin many of the so-called defenders of marriage. And so ends any ability of theirs to bring salt and light to this issue. They cannot successfully argue for Biblical truth by abandoning Biblical truth at the beginning of their argument. The referenced quote comes from a so-called defender of marriage debating Sodomite marriage with Piers Morgan[1]. Sadly, the interview was hailed by marriage defenders as a brilliant victory.

The Biblical truth is that God does care, and so Christians should care, what we do in our bedrooms. All of us. Marriage, and the marriage bed, is a reflection of Christ and the church. Any perversion of that bed, is a perversion of the metaphor of Christ and the Church.

And the norm for that bed is very explicitly listed in Scripture. Not fornication, not adultery, not bestiality, and not Sodomy. Committing Sodomy can never become or be made part of what is marriage. It is a sin, a crime[2], a horrible perversion, it can never be made part of marriage.[3]

But we cannot stop there. Indeed we cannot start there. We have to start by condemning the act itself and, indeed, the people who do not condemn the act. God is very clear in the law and the NT, Sodomy is not an option. Sodomy is a death penalty offense.

Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

We cannot defend marriage while pretending that it is OK what Sodomites do in their bedroom. The Sodomites know that if it is Ok what they do in their bedroom, then it is perverted of us to refuse to ‘recognize’ it. Those are the rules of the new tolerance and, for that matter, those are the old rules too. Everyone knows you can’t say that it is “OK” to be a Baptist and then refuse to allow Baptists to build churches or run for public office. You either have to say it is not OK (but perhaps we will allow it under strict supervision) or say it is Ok.

Smoking isn’t really “OK” so we place all sorts of restrictions on it. Large soft drinks had to be made ‘not OK’ before NY politicians could try to ban them. The road to restriction starts with ‘not OK’.

Thus the Sodomites are right. If we as Christians really say we ‘don’t care’ what they do in their bedroom then we can’t put restrictions on that activity in any of its forms, including societal recognition. Nowadays it is less socially stigmatizing to be a smoker than to be a Sodomite.

And the slippery slope argument doesn’t work. Oh, its a good argument normally. Calling it a fallacy just ignores political reality. But the slippery slope can only be applied to something that is ‘not OK’. We talk about banning marijuana because ‘it might lead to harder drugs’, but we immediately follow that with reason why marijuana, itself, is bad. We all know that if the thing is really OK, if we don’t mind the thing, then we can’t call it the first part of a slippery slope.

 Rom 1:21-25 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

And the slippery slope argument doesn’t work because you have to throw out all of Biblical and historical morality to use it. What, Biblically and historically, could be worse than Sodomy? Polygamy? Seriously? Do you really want to do a comparison between Romans I to I Kings 15:5?? You can’t talk about a slippery slope when you are at the bottom of the pig sty. There is no ‘down’ from Sodomite marriage. It is the lowest of the low, morally speaking.

If we are going to go ‘up’ then we have to recognize, and say, where ‘up’ is. Up is not a delay in the implementation of Sodomite marriage. ‘Up’ is societal recognition of the evil of Sodomy. ‘Up’ is believing in, promoting, and practicing young, fruitful marriages. ‘Up’ is rejecting not only Sodomy but fornication, adultery, pornography, divorce, birth control and child murder.[4]

The Christian church cannot just bemoan the evils of our day, we must actively combat it. And Scripture is not silent on how to do this. Titus 2 specifically says that the Word of God will be blasphemed when our families are not in order. It calls for our young women to be in marriages, to be loving their husbands, loving their children, and keeping the home. Our young women are, for the most part, everywhere else. College, jobs, writing blogs... but not home, not helping a husband, not rejoicing in his bed. They think themselves not 'ready' for such, or they think there is no man good enough.

In truth what the world is not ready for, what it can never be ready for, is what we have now. Thousands of unmarried young women, thousands of unmarried young men... all bearing false if silent witness to the values of the world, and in contradiction to the God of the Scriptures.

Piers Morgan is a commentator for CNN known for his liberal views on various issues, including citizen disarmament and Sodomy.

Footnotes:

[1] http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/must-see-video-a-marriage-expert39s-masterful-handling-of-piers-morgan

[2] See Romans 1 and Lev 20:13.

[3] When we say "Christians should care what we do in our bedrooms" we do not mean that the church institution or the state should attempt to spy on people in their bedrooms. The principle of jurisdictions needs to be touched on here so that we do not give readers the impression that we are endorsing a totalitarian view of either church or state that suggests either of these institutions should be invading people's homes or attempting to go out of their way to discover whether individuals or families are engaged in any type of fornication or adultery. Ultimately, what people do in private they are answerable to God and each other for. Marriage is primarily the family's jurisdiction, not that of the church or state.

The only time that the state would get involved Biblically is when the matter ceases to be purely within the family and become a civil dispute with the requisite two or three witnesses. In other words, when the perpetrators themselves make the event public or one member of the family calls the state to be involved.

The church's primary involvement would be in preaching against the sin of fornication and adultery, and in bringing appropriate church sanctions against unrepentant people whose sins in their area have become public because either they or a family member has made it public. The church has no authority to demand public confessions on these sins nor biblical authorization to spy on members of its congregations.

In other words, God gives no institution other than the family the authority to control and monitor what people are doing in the privacy of their bedrooms. Only if the perpetrators make those activities public does the matter enter into the church or state's jurisdiction.

[4] Second, as far as the current debate over homosexual marriage is concerned, we would note that much of this controversy has been stirred due to an unBiblical imposition of taxes as much as anything. The tax code needs to be revised so that there are no tax penalties for not being married. Unmarried people should not have to pay more in taxes than married people, or vice versa.

And I would note, again, that marriage is in the family jurisdiction. Neither the state nor the church have any business recognizing, or refusing to recognize, a marriage until the family jurisdiction has brought the issue to them. There is no call, Biblically, for a 'marriage licence' or the ubiquitous 'I now pronounce you..." Only God can make a marriage, and only the father of the bride (with rare exceptions) can authorize one.

German Deportation: HSLDA and the fight against 'Parallel Societies'

As posted by Von on Persevero  News!

Did you know that the United States is trying to deport a family of international criminals back to Germany? Their insidious crime? Homeschooling!

As the German court explains it:

The general public has a justified interest in counteracting the development of religiously or philosophically motivated “parallel socieites” and in integrating minorities in this area. Integration does not only require that the majority of the population does not exclude relgiious or ideological minorities, but, in fact, that these minorities do not segregate themselves and that they do not close themselves off to a dialogue with dissenters and people of other beliefs. Dialogue with such minorities is an enrichment for an open pluralistic society. The learning and practicing of this in the sense of experienced tolerance is an important lesson right from the elementary school stage. The presence of a broad spectrum of convictions in a classroom can sustainably develop the ability of all pupils in being tolerant and exercising the dialogue that is a basic requirement of democratic decision-making process.

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Translation: In order to foster tolerance toward different beliefs, everyone must be taught the same thing at the same time in the same building. Logical, right?

Germany first put its anti-homeschooling law in place under Hitler. He realized that if he was to truly indoctrinate the people to his way of thinking he needed to get all of the children into a system that he could control. The modern ‘liberal’ leaders of Germany obviously agree. If they are to indoctrinate all of Germany into their vision of 'tolerance' then they need every little bottom to be sitting in a German government school. Heil Merkel.

HSLDA Chairman and founder Michael Farris, JD, LLM, argues the case at the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals on April 23 and explains why this case is so important to Americans.

“When the United States government says that homeschooling is a mutable choice, it is saying that a government can legitimately coerce you to change this choice,” Farris said. “In other words, you have no protected right to choose what type of education your children will receive. We should understand that in these arguments, something very concerning is being said about the liberties of all Americans.”
The case has captured national and international media attention with reporting by the Associated Press, Fox News, Al Jazeera, Glenn Beck, and Mike Huckabee. The family is scheduled to appear on The Mike Huckabee Show on April 6.
“I’m glad Obama wasn’t in charge in 1620,” Farris said in an appearance on Fox and Friends. “The government’s arguments in this case confuse equal persecution with equal protection and demonstrate a serious disregard for individual religious liberty. I really wonder what would’ve happened to the Pilgrims under this administration.”
HSLDA learned of the Romeikes’ plight shortly before they fled to the United States. The German authorities had levied thousands of dollars in fines against them and planned to put a lien on their home. Homeschooling is not tolerated in Germany, and Uwe Romeike indicated that they might have to leave the country.” [1]

The above quote leaves out many of the threats that actually exist against this family. They have had their house raided and their children forcibly taken to the German government schools... not once, but twice (the second time public reaction forced the Polizei to back down.) Other families in similar situations have had their children taken away and given psychological diagnoses.

So the threat here is very real and present. The Polizei are standing by to teach the this family that homeschooling is NOT tolerated in Germany. Nein. Nichts. Verstehn Sie?

And what is the reaction of the US government? They are pushing to have them deported. While millions of illegal immigrants get a free pass, they are pushing to deport this homeschooling family. They agree with Germany that homeschooling is not a protected right. Though allowed in every single other civilized nation, the US see's nothing wrong with  Germany putting people in prison for doing it.

I should not that while I greatly respect the work of HSLDA they aren’t theonomists by a long chalk. They frequently appeal to values that stand in start opposition to God’s Word. In their brief for this case[2] they conceded that governments have responsibility to see that children ‘are educated’; a concession that no Christians should ever make: a government which gets to decide *that* a child must be educated is a government which will decide *how* he is educated.

But we should, indeed must, stand with them in this battle. Indeed I recommend HSLDA, with all of their faults, to every American family.

Footnotes:

[1]http://www.hslda.org/docs/news/2013/201302110.asp

[2]https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hslda.org%2Fhs%2Finternational%2FGermany%2FRomeikeBrief.pdf

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